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Pan/Bulla fusions vs Base Gotenks post
Topic Started: Oct 12 2012, 08:22 PM (2,805 Views)
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They asked to come along and he said no it would be too dangerous. Pan followed and he let her stay and even attack the first dragon they met, which stole or hindered ki with pollution. He never aw a fight as too big for her, unlike Goten and Trunks. There's also the whole killing the wind shadow dragon she did with the Kamehameha when Goku couldn't even fight off its winds and the other one using her energy to fight a ssj4
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Oct 13 2012, 09:38 AM
They asked to come along and he said no it would be too dangerous. Pan followed and he let her stay and even attack the first dragon they met, which stole or hindered ki with pollution. He never aw a fight as too big for her, unlike Goten and Trunks. There's also the whole killing the wind shadow dragon she did with the Kamehameha when Goku couldn't even fight off its winds and the other one using her energy to fight a ssj4
No Gohan asked to come along and Goku said that if SSJ4 couldn't win their be no point in them coming. He tells Pan to go home but she blackmails him with Giru.

Then Pan's KHH only weakened the wind dragon Goku's KHH killed it and finally SSJ4 was crapping on Naturon even with Pan absorbed.

Goten<Trunks<Pan<MSSJ Goten<MSSJ Trunks<Gohan<Pan angry.

is how I see the GT power chain.
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Pan wins no doubt, the children most of the time, surpass their parents fact ex. Gohan and Goku during the Cell saga.

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Oct 13 2012, 09:07 AM
And yeh, considering that Base Pan is probz >>>> Base Goku....oh lawd.
This right here really says it all about where Pan is, by MOGT Pan's Base was nearing SS2 levels imo...most of all Goku's...that's what I think.

And EOGT, Base Pan more then likely and probably did surpass SS2 Gohan, we know she was stronger than Goten and Trunks BOGT and in space, and like Goku Pan's power constantly kept growing.

Forget about fusion here, have Elder Kaioshin preform his unlocking on Pan alone and she'll be able to completely destroy nearly...if not everyone in GT.
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Oct 13 2012, 11:02 AM
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Oct 13 2012, 09:38 AM
They asked to come along and he said no it would be too dangerous. Pan followed and he let her stay and even attack the first dragon they met, which stole or hindered ki with pollution. He never aw a fight as too big for her, unlike Goten and Trunks. There's also the whole killing the wind shadow dragon she did with the Kamehameha when Goku couldn't even fight off its winds and the other one using her energy to fight a ssj4
No Gohan asked to come along and Goku said that if SSJ4 couldn't win their be no point in them coming. He tells Pan to go home but she blackmails him with Giru.

Then Pan's KHH only weakened the wind dragon Goku's KHH killed it and finally SSJ4 was crapping on Naturon even with Pan absorbed.

Goten<Trunks<Pan<MSSJ Goten<MSSJ Trunks<Gohan<Pan angry.

is how I see the GT power chain.

Trunks implied Pan was stronger than him on Planet Pital after she knocked Rildo on his *****.
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Oct 13 2012, 12:16 PM
Pan wins no doubt, the children most of the time, surpass their parents fact ex. Gohan and Goku during the Cell saga.

@ Kamikaze Pyro I like your new pics at the bottom ;)

Thanks. ^_^
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Oct 13 2012, 09:38 AM
They asked to come along and he said no it would be too dangerous. Pan followed and he let her stay and even attack the first dragon they met, which stole or hindered ki with pollution. He never aw a fight as too big for her, unlike Goten and Trunks. There's also the whole killing the wind shadow dragon she did with the Kamehameha when Goku couldn't even fight off its winds and the other one using her energy to fight a ssj4
No Gohan asked to come along and Goku said that if SSJ4 couldn't win their be no point in them coming. He tells Pan to go home but she blackmails him with Giru.

Then Pan's KHH only weakened the wind dragon Goku's KHH killed it and finally SSJ4 was crapping on Naturon even with Pan absorbed.

Goten<Trunks<Pan<MSSJ Goten<MSSJ Trunks<Gohan<Pan angry.

is how I see the GT power chain.

Trunks implied Pan was stronger than him on Planet Pital after she knocked Rildo on his *****.
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Oct 13 2012, 12:16 PM
Pan wins no doubt, the children most of the time, surpass their parents fact ex. Gohan and Goku during the Cell saga.

@ Kamikaze Pyro I like your new pics at the bottom ;)

Thanks. ^_^
You made me mad after you changed your old avatar/signature :@ .

Bulla (at Omega Shenron) against this Gotenks would be a great fight.

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Oct 13 2012, 03:03 PM
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Oct 13 2012, 09:07 AM
And yeh, considering that Base Pan is probz >>>> Base Goku....oh lawd.
This right here really says it all about where Pan is, by MOGT Pan's Base was nearing SS2 levels imo...most of all Goku's...that's what I think.

And EOGT, Base Pan more then likely and probably did surpass SS2 Gohan, we know she was stronger than Goten and Trunks BOGT and in space, and like Goku Pan's power constantly kept growing.

Forget about fusion here, have Elder Kaioshin preform his unlocking on Pan alone and she'll be able to completely destroy nearly...if not everyone in GT.
I never did understand how she became so ridiculously powerful.
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Oct 13 2012, 09:38 AM
They asked to come along and he said no it would be too dangerous. Pan followed and he let her stay and even attack the first dragon they met, which stole or hindered ki with pollution. He never aw a fight as too big for her, unlike Goten and Trunks. There's also the whole killing the wind shadow dragon she did with the Kamehameha when Goku couldn't even fight off its winds and the other one using her energy to fight a ssj4
No Gohan asked to come along and Goku said that if SSJ4 couldn't win their be no point in them coming. He tells Pan to go home but she blackmails him with Giru.

Then Pan's KHH only weakened the wind dragon Goku's KHH killed it and finally SSJ4 was crapping on Naturon even with Pan absorbed.

Goten<Trunks<Pan<MSSJ Goten<MSSJ Trunks<Gohan<Pan angry.

is how I see the GT power chain.

Trunks implied Pan was stronger than him on Planet Pital after she knocked Rildo on his *****.
Pan was having a rage boost against Rildo though wasn't she?
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Yeah, but she stated she knew how to use her rage coherently so it was kind of like her own version of Super Saiyan. Later on, though, I'd have her much stronger than the boys even without her rage boosts.
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That and she shrugged off SSJ Goten with Baby having powered him up charged blast at point blank range with no defense put up. She was just mad that he ruined her homecoming dinner, and it wasn't fry a sigma who was stronger than SSJ Trunks or SSJ Goku were expected to be with consistent improvement mad, it was I'm going to KO you Uncle Goten in front of the family like I did when I was 4 mad. Gohan was specific as hell though when Goten tried to fight her, he would have to be the one to take her, and she wasn't even powered up let alone enraged when Gohan told Goten go sit your soft behind in the corner.

At the Baby fight she says says she can follow Baby vs SSJ4 Goku, so can Gohan. Trunks sees pieces, Goten is lost whule watching the two super powers clash.

I will have to go and look at 17 again in the original, but in the dub which was just played yesterday, she wanted to help Vegeta and said she could challenge him by buying Goku more time. Hercule makes her come up with another plan thus the Gero grabbing, but the fact she thinks that after the boys, Uub, and her papa got stomped implies she grew in power again as she watched the whole fight and saw only Vegeta could even make a stand vs the guy
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I'm watching the episode now and I'm honestly not seeing any implication by Gohan that Goten couldn't have beaten Pan. In fact, after the fight goes into the air, Goten mocks her by saying she can't save the planet because she can't beat him. That's when Gohan shows up and says he'll finish her off. It isn't like Goten was having trouble and then Gohan came in, otherwise I'd see it that way. And we don't know who's blast she survived with minor scuff marks. Goten and Gohan both shot off blasts, and we don't see which one follows Pan to hit her. I think it might've even been Gohan's, since she was the one standing in front of him on the right, and that was the blast that hit her; but then, that's just an assumption on my part and nothing I can actually prove.
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And yeh, considering that Base Pan is probz >>>> Base Goku....oh lawd.
This right here really says it all about where Pan is, by MOGT Pan's Base was nearing SS2 levels imo...most of all Goku's...that's what I think.

And EOGT, Base Pan more then likely and probably did surpass SS2 Gohan, we know she was stronger than Goten and Trunks BOGT and in space, and like Goku Pan's power constantly kept growing.

Forget about fusion here, have Elder Kaioshin preform his unlocking on Pan alone and she'll be able to completely destroy nearly...if not everyone in GT.
I never did understand how she became so ridiculously powerful.
For one she's part of the Son family tree, then you count in she's a third generation Saiyan to the first SS in 1,000 years...then, add in each Generations Potential of the Saiyans was implied and presented to be higher than the last Generation.

Also, if you went by logic...the only real logical explanation, other than being a third generation saiyan of a SS, is Gohan's ease of access to his potential power was passed down to Pan.
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Pan was most likely conceived by Ultimate Gohan. That explains the lack of SSJ and if Android Saga SSJ can have Goten and Trunks imagine what Ultimate Gohan could bring into the world.
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I always did wonder how the women survived conception of those kids after they became ssjs and Gohan mystic. Just seems impossible
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